More Modern Management Conversation with Ian Gill on Agility by Nature

I had fun with Ian Gill on his Agility by Nature podcast: A Conversation with Johanna Rothman about the Modern Management Made Easy books.

We laughed a lot. (Partly at me. I am the Queen of the Career-Limiting Conversation.)

We spoke a lot about what managers can do in practice as opposed to theory. And we discussed the fact that management differs from technical work in many ways.

Ian was a terrific interviewer and asked me probing questions. You will enjoy this one.

Ian and I laughed and commiserated about the many myths in the Modern Management Made Easy books. Enjoy!

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