Comments on: Don’t Fight With People Providing Feedback http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html Hiring technical people and being hired can be difficult, no matter what the economy is doing. Use the tips here to hire better, or find a new job. Thu, 17 May 2012 14:01:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Dentist Clearwater http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html/comment-page-1#comment-5370 Dentist Clearwater Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:33:25 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/?p=832#comment-5370 I did ask for a feedback once, they said that my personality was "bubbly" and that I might get bored with the job. I understood what they wanted to say about it, however I was more puzzled when she said that I had a bubbly personality since my friends say that I am too level-headed and quiet at times. However I still thanked them for their feedback. I did ask for a feedback once, they said that my personality was “bubbly” and that I might get bored with the job. I understood what they wanted to say about it, however I was more puzzled when she said that I had a bubbly personality since my friends say that I am too level-headed and quiet at times. However I still thanked them for their feedback.

]]> By: Sridhar http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html/comment-page-1#comment-5362 Sridhar Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:13:46 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/?p=832#comment-5362 Nice article, I had attended many interviews till now. I lost some jobs in the last round too. I always wished to know the reason why they did not choose me. Only once did I get feedback. I promptly thanked him and left that place. But I remembered that feedback. It was really helpful to me. I think interviewers usually try to avoid feedback because people would start arguing instead of accepting it.. Nice article,

I had attended many interviews till now. I lost some jobs in the last round too. I always wished to know the reason why they did not choose me. Only once did I get feedback. I promptly thanked him and left that place. But I remembered that feedback. It was really helpful to me.

I think interviewers usually try to avoid feedback because people would start arguing instead of accepting it..

]]> By: John http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html/comment-page-1#comment-5355 John Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:22:44 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/?p=832#comment-5355 Like your article, short and very much to the point. Positive feedback is very important and as you state stranger things can happen, the new arrival might not make the grade or may move on to another role elsewhere or they may need another candidate, who knows. Always leave a positive impression no matter what. We offer career advice on our job board http://www.jobs2ireland.ie to candidates and your piece of advice is very sound. Like your article, short and very much to the point.

Positive feedback is very important and as you state stranger things can happen, the new arrival might not make the grade or may move on to another role elsewhere or they may need another candidate, who knows.

Always leave a positive impression no matter what.

We offer career advice on our job board http://www.jobs2ireland.ie to candidates and your piece of advice is very sound.

]]> By: DJ http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html/comment-page-1#comment-5353 DJ Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:15:44 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/?p=832#comment-5353 'What do they have to hide?' J pimmel asked. There are a few reasons why people don't provide proper feedback. One is the possibility of getting into trouble for speaking the truth, another more important reason, in my opinion, is the degree of care. If I don't care enough for the person, why put myself out by telling the truth. I had a staff who was a nightmare to manage; she doesnt take on feedback at all and I mean not at all. It is always someone else's faults and problems, she is perfect. The one time I told her the truth, I had her screaming and stabbing her fingers in my face, then she went to my boss to complain about the unfair assessments by her supervisor (my direct report) and me. In the end, I simply took the coward's way out; moved her into another department through restructuring. Her subsequent two bosses had similar experience as mine and both wanted to terminate her but didn't because of pity. She was sole bread winner. Everyone has moved on and she is still there. From what I hear, she hasn't improve all these years and remains at the same grade. Real/proper feedback is a gift, even when it's negative feedback as we could learn the truth and improve. ‘What do they have to hide?’ J pimmel asked. There are a few reasons why people don’t provide proper feedback. One is the possibility of getting into trouble for speaking the truth, another more important reason, in my opinion, is the degree of care. If I don’t care enough for the person, why put myself out by telling the truth.

I had a staff who was a nightmare to manage; she doesnt take on feedback at all and I mean not at all. It is always someone else’s faults and problems, she is perfect. The one time I told her the truth, I had her screaming and stabbing her fingers in my face, then she went to my boss to complain about the unfair assessments by her supervisor (my direct report) and me.

In the end, I simply took the coward’s way out; moved her into another department through restructuring. Her subsequent two bosses had similar experience as mine and both wanted to terminate her but didn’t because of pity. She was sole bread winner.

Everyone has moved on and she is still there. From what I hear, she hasn’t improve all these years and remains at the same grade.

Real/proper feedback is a gift, even when it’s negative feedback as we could learn the truth and improve.

]]> By: Dee http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html/comment-page-1#comment-5348 Dee Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:26:43 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/?p=832#comment-5348 Hi Johanna, great post and excellent advice! It can be so tempting to argue and defend oneself when really the door's already shut and it's breath wasted. I particularly like "Something about your interviewing situation has created the rejection (maybe not you)." Taking the blame out of the game helps everyone move forward. :-) Hi Johanna, great post and excellent advice!
It can be so tempting to argue and defend oneself when really the door’s already shut and it’s breath wasted.
I particularly like “Something about your interviewing situation has created the rejection (maybe not you).” Taking the blame out of the game helps everyone move forward.
:-)

]]> By: Kate Messner http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html/comment-page-1#comment-5347 Kate Messner Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:27:19 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/?p=832#comment-5347 Good point & good term: feedback. I think the trouble is, we see it as criticism and most of us (myself included) have a really tough time with that. If we look at it from a less subjective, more scientific perspective (like the use of the term in electronics) we need not take it so personally - it's just physics. Good point & good term: feedback. I think the trouble is, we see it as criticism and most of us (myself included) have a really tough time with that. If we look at it from a less subjective, more scientific perspective (like the use of the term in electronics) we need not take it so personally – it’s just physics.

]]> By: Dwayne Phillips http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html/comment-page-1#comment-5346 Dwayne Phillips Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:40:00 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/?p=832#comment-5346 Receiving feedback is not easy for many of us. One question comes to mind when I receive feedback, Do I want to learn (from the feedback) or debate (about the feedback)? Receiving feedback is not easy for many of us. One question comes to mind when I receive feedback,

Do I want to learn (from the feedback) or debate (about the feedback)?

]]> By: j pimmel http://www.jrothman.com/blog/htp/2009/07/dont-fight-with-people-providing-feedback.html/comment-page-1#comment-5343 j pimmel Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:39:25 +0000 http://jrothman.com/blog/htp/?p=832#comment-5343 The worst feedback which I recently got was that ever so cryptic not-feedback feedback. "There were many other very capable candidates that applied and unfortunately you were not chosen to go forward' Well durr. Thanks for the statement of the obvious.. but its no feedback at all! I have a strong belief that truly professional individuals have the strength of character to respond to a request for feedback stating the impartial truths about why and what criteria the applicant failed upon, primarily as a means to educate them on how they might re-approach a similar position in the future. There remain however, plenty of not so straight talking types who would rather hide their reasons than reveal them. What do they have to hide? The worst feedback which I recently got was that ever so cryptic not-feedback feedback.

“There were many other very capable candidates that applied and unfortunately you were not chosen to go forward’

Well durr. Thanks for the statement of the obvious.. but its no feedback at all!

I have a strong belief that truly professional individuals have the strength of character to respond to a request for feedback stating the impartial truths about why and what criteria the applicant failed upon, primarily as a means to educate them on how they might re-approach a similar position in the future.

There remain however, plenty of not so straight talking types who would rather hide their reasons than reveal them. What do they have to hide?

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